So my plan now is to eventually take my business (mainly just my existing inventory) to Denver. But: I also am not making parts anymore in my shop here. I am also not restocking many items as they run out. You may have noticed some of my parts are out of stock now. That trend will continue. Once in Denver I will continue to sell out my existing stock I have on hand and as I run out of things they become discontinued.
So my advice is buy it now because it may not be available in the future.
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Thank you,
Rodney Dickman
I am out of stock on these kits.
2-15-2024: I have decided to work on this. It will take some time but maybe by smmer I will have these kits back in stock. I will be making reproduction relays for the buckets that will be top quality. This is a very needed kit for the 84-86 Fiero's.
Here is why:
In the past I would buy these relays and use them to make my kits. These relays were always made in Mexico and were very high quality. The same company that made them for GM. I never found a bad one. When I went to make a new batch recently to make more of these kits some of the relays I received said made in China. So after I did all the work to put on the wires and pot them severasl failed the test in my test fixture. All that failed were the ones that were made in China. New out of the box and no good. I had around a 35% failure rate. So I can not make these kits using these China relays. Unfortunately those that buy these relays from auto parts suppliers thinking they are good will be frustrated not knowing why their headlight system will not work. This is going to be a huge problem for many.
The only way I would make these kits again is to have a circuit board made and use top quality components. Maybe in the future I or the new owner of my busines will take that on.
Headlights don't go up or down? Goes up but not down? Etc.
This kit will fix most 84-86 Fiero headlight systems.
Every kit is tested in my test fixture.
Subjected to a full load condition:
I had 2 people have problems with their system in the past. It may or may not have been my kit. So I made a test fixture to test every kit before it leaves here. That proves the kit is good.
New design 1984-1986 headlight control upgrade.
Why a second design? This whole project started when aftermarket 87/88 headlight motors started to appear in the aftermarket. I worked with a local electrical engineer and we tried to reproduce the controller for the 87/88 Fiero headlight system. My idea was to offer a reproduction 87/88 headlight motor controller and misc parts and let the customer buy these aftermarket 87/88 headlight motors so anyone with a 84-86 could upgrade to have basically the same system as used in the 87/88 Fiero. The problem we found is there is an IC chip in the controller that has a number on it that is changed by GM and is not traceable. So basically we could not reproduce the 87/88 headlight motor controller without the real number for that IC chip.
So I decided I could make the 84-86 headlight control system with everything in one potted box just as the 87/88 was all in one box. That worked fine but the problem was that it was somewhat difficult and time consuming to install. You had to reroute many wires etc. I don't blame many for not wanting to install it in their 84-86 Fiero because of the complexity of the install. In time I realized there is a better way to do this that is seriously easier to install.
Some history of the 84-86 headlights:
Most that have headlight motor problems in their 84-86 Fiero want to blame the headlight motors. They replace them with rebuilt headlight motors but many times still experience the same problems. Some replace the relays but again still have the same problems. Why? The problem in most all cases is a diminished path for the voltage and amperage from the battery reaching the armature of the headlight motors. The armature is spring loaded and if it does not spin with enough strength and momentum it will not operate the contacts in the headlight motors correctly.
The path for the voltage from the battery and back (all the grounds) is a long one. As on any older vehicle, time takes it's toll on the wiring connections, grounds etc. There is never any one place to look. It starts at the battery terminals and little by little the voltage and amperage diminishes along the way. Why? Slightly corroded connections in all the various connectors is common. Corroded grounds. Every marginal connection diminishes the voltage and amperage to the headlight motor armatures. By the time the voltage and amperage gets to the armatures in the headlight motors it can be seriously diminished.
How can the voltage make it to the headlight motors when they have to pass thru connections like this!!
While doing the first installations of my old system we found many connectors had corrosion between the wires and the brass ends. I've seen some clean these connectors but you also have to make sure there is no corrosion in the crimped connections.
This one is somewhat clean. Some of them from a few installations of my old kits were so corroded the corrosion went up the wires over an inch. We had to sand the wires clean before we could install the butt splices and solder them.
The kit eliminates all of these marginal connections.
What is in this new design kit?
My idea for the new design kit was to make replacement relays for the headlight buckets. But I had also pondered using OEM aftermarket headlight bucket relays. The problem with using aftermarket relays is no one makes new pigtails. So I had to think of how to over come this. The way I found to do this is to use spade connectors, wires, solder them, put on self sealing heat shrink tube and pot them to make them 100% moisture proof. These headlight bucket aftermarket relays seem to very plentiful as they are used in several other GM cars including the C4 Corvette and should be available for many, many years yet.
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| New potted headlight bucket relay |
Installed with the new pigtail to the motor |
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| My replacement isolation relay in place |
New disconnect on the headlight motor |
You also replace your old isolation relay with my new reproduction isolation relay. New waterproof disconnects to the headlight motors are included. All the old marginal connections in the front headlight area are now new.
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| The kit includes my new reproduction isolation relay. |
New waterproof headlight motor disconnects are included in the kit |
| Included in the kit is a tool to use to raise and lower the headlight bucket as you work on it. |
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Tools needed:
- Wire stripper/crimper
- Heat gun
- Wire cutter
- Soldering iron (40 watt is preferred)
- Socket set
- Reversable variable speed hand drill (cordless preferred)
- Screwdrivers
Misc. needed:
Included with the kit is a step by step paper instruction sheet. Use both the paper instruction sheets and this installation web page below to install this kit.
Step by step installation web page with pictures:
http://rodneydickman.com/product_info.php?products_id=424
This upgrade kit does both headlight motors. You only need to order one kit per car.
It still takes a bit of time and effort to install this new system but it is seriously less difficult than my first generation kit. All you are doing is replacing the isolation relay and both relays on the headlight buckets. And putting in new disconnects on the headlight motors. if you take your time and follow the paper instructions and my installation web page it is not that hard to do.
I'm generally here and you can call if you have any questions. 262-835-9575
Electrical/electronic parts are not returnable.
Shipping: Shipping is $9.00 (Midwest USA)
Shipping to areas outside of the USA: Generally I ship postal air first class mail. Shipping varies depending on what country they are going to. It ranges from $21.50 to Canada to $24.00 or more to Australia etc.
SHIPPING NOTE:
I do not offer free shipping.
Because I use postal flat rate boxes for heavy orders there is no program that can add the proper amount of shipping to every order. So all shipping is added manually by myself after you place your order. That is explained here: Shipping added later explanation
When you place an order the shipping amount will show $0.00. Soon after you place an order you will receive an email confirmation that shows the amount of shipping that was added to your order.
Core requests: Stan Miller rebuilds many headlight motors. Stan has a hard time finding cores. If you have any old headlight motors or parts of headlight motors you do not need Stan will buy them from you. Contact Stan Miller at: stan8t8gt@aol.com
